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 Subject :Re: new.. 23-03-2010 22:02:06 
Waylon Ronaldo
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I am a habitual smoker. I am planning to quit smoking totally, from past one month so I am using electronic cigarettes. Hope this helps me to quit smoking soon.
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 Subject :Re: Electronic Cigarettes?.. 22-03-2010 22:03:48 
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Yeah I know what you have heard is true. The electronic cigarettes are the best substitutefor people who are addicted to smoking and becomng unhealthy. For those people electronic cigarettes really help them to quit gradually and can have safe fagging.
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 Subject :Re: The Triggers.. 22-03-2010 21:57:38 
Waylon Ronaldo
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Quit smoking is very easy. Smoking habits make you fall sick in many ways. You will accomplish with the relaxed mind once you get rid off smoking. It is better to have a safe and healthy life.
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 Subject :Re: ... We live on that dark planet only once. Part 2.. 04-04-2010 16:53:57 
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Whatever good reasons you provide to justify the smoking habit... of course you don't feel bad about that and you enjoy being in your way, at the end of the day, it's just one thing that come in to picture your health!!!
It would be wise if you do it in a limited way.

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 Subject :Re: Electronic Cigarettes?.. 04-04-2010 16:55:28 
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Thanks for sharing!!!
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 Subject :Re: ... We live on that dark planet only once. Part 2.. 17-02-2010 04:31:52 
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Topic : ... We live on that dark planet only once. Part 2

The cost of smoking is greater than most people realise. It goes beyond the health effects on the individual teh following is a summary of teh cost of smoking justifying quitting;
  • Huge health care cost  - more money from the taxpayer
  • Environmental damage through cigarette butts, cutting down of trees to make wrapping paper for cigarettes, clearing of more land in developing countries to grow tobacco crop, bush fires due to improperly discarded smouldering cigarettes
  • Child labour in developing countries on tobacco farms - see this CNN article.
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 Subject :Re: ... We live on that dark planet only once. Part 2.. 22-12-2009 12:28:58 
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Topic : ... We live on that dark planet only once. Part 2

It is so hard to quit smoking though. Its easier said than done! I always find that whenever I quit I miss everything about smoking...even holding it :) I tried one of those e-cigarettes from Cigotine and found it was a great help! Its basically the same as a cigarette without the tar and chemicals!
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 Subject :Re: ... We live on that dark planet only once. Part 2.. 08-12-2009 19:19:05 
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Topic : ... We live on that dark planet only once. Part 2

Can you remember what it was like to be alive before you started smoking? .........before your body became dependent on nicotine. You have all kinds of really really good reasons for smoking. Did you need all those reasons before you started to smoke?
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 Subject :The Triggers.. 23-11-2009 18:01:38 
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 There are many reasons that make us to smoke, like wise there are many approaches that can be used to get away for that. One among the most effective approach is “relapse prevention”. It refers to identify the personal “triggers”, “Cues” or “high risk situations” for smoking, and then developing tools for dealing with them.

Once the situations are identified, measures can be according to that. It aims to ways to avoid, escape from or to cope up with situations that might trigger you to return to smoking after you have quit.

The best thing to do is, identify the situations that you feel difficult to cope with. Develop tools to adjust with, that make you to be free from smoking, forever. So, while finding out the Way to quit smoking, find the best.
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 Subject :I'm FREE.. 16-10-2009 15:36:12 
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Hey all,

 

I wanted to say hi and see what’s going on with everyone.  Let me just say that I was a smoker for seven years and not a day goes by now that I don’t wish I never picked up a cigarette.  I’m not here to chastise anybody, but I do have some solutions if anybody is really thinking about quitting smoking.  When I made the leap a few months ago, I did use the Nicorette gum which got a little pricey.  I still use it, but my cravings aren’t so bad that I feel like morphing into the Hulk.  I know it’s tough and you probably get antsy just thinking about it, but let me tell you; you suffer the consequences.  Even though I stopped, I wake up every morning coughing and can barely speak a lot of times.  Again, I’m not preaching but if anyone wants help I’m leaving a few links for items that will help.  Get them on here instead of spending $100 at the store every week like I did.  I’ve been getting my Nicorette from here for about 2 months.  Feel free to ask me any questions as a former smoker. 

 

Good Luck!

 

 

 

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 Subject :Re: Electronic Cigarettes?.. 13-09-2009 15:48:51 
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Hello all,

First off, hello to everyone....Im the new guy.

Has anyone had any experiences at all wth electronic cigarettes?

I am trying to quit (again). I saw them on the news, and the looked really cool. Looks like it may actually be like a real cigarette without the bad stuff.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance and have a great day....

Joe

Hay Joe
I personally havn't tried them or smoked but my Grandfather has recently passed on and i have the job of cleaning up all of his belongings and found 23 packs of the e-cig things. The doc said they were the reason why he lasted so long.
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 Subject :Re: new.. 06-08-2009 07:57:21 
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Best of luck trying to quit and I'll keep my fingers crossed :)
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 Subject :new.. 30-07-2009 10:22:25 
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my name is vanessa, nes for short. my quit day was July 20th 2009. i'm hoping to fine a place were i can go for help throung my journey.
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 Subject :Re: Electronic Cigarettes?.. 14-04-2009 13:34:26 
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Health Canada Advises Canadians Not to Use Electronic Cigarettes

Advisory
2009-53
March 27, 2009
For immediate release


OTTAWA - Health Canada is advising Canadians not to purchase or use electronic smoking products, as these products may pose health risks and have not been fully evaluated for safety, quality and efficacy by Health Canada.

These products come as electronic cigarettes, cigars, cigarillos and pipes, as well as cartridges of nicotine solutions and related products. These products fall within the scope of the Food and Drugs Act, and under the Act, require market authorization before they can be imported, advertised or sold. The sale of these health products is currently not compliant with the Food and Drugs Act since no electronic smoking products have been granted a market authorization in Canada.

In recent months, a number of electronic cigarettes, cigars and pipes as well as cartridges of nicotine solutions and related products have been marketed in Canada, and through the Internet. Most of these products are shaped and look like their conventional counterparts. They produce a vapour that resembles smoke and a glow that resembles the tip of a cigarette. They consist of a battery-powered delivery system that vapourizes and delivers a liquid chemical mixture that may be composed of various amounts of nicotine, propylene glycol, and other chemicals.

Nicotine is a highly addictive and toxic substance, and the inhalation of propylene glycol is a known irritant. Although these electronic smoking products may be marketed as a safer alternative to conventional tobacco products and, in some cases, as an aid to quitting smoking, electronic smoking products may pose risks such as nicotine poisoning and addiction. Please visit the Health Canada website for further information about nicotine and addiction.

While no electronic smoking product has yet been authorized for sale in Canada, Health Canada has authorized the sale of a number of smoking cessation aids, including nicotine gum, nicotine patches, nicotine inhaler, and nicotine lozenges.

Electronic smoking products, including their nicotine cartridges, must be kept out of the reach of children at all times, given the risk of choking or nicotine poisoning. Nicotine is hazardous to the health and safety of certain segments of the population such as children, youth, pregnant women, nursing mothers, people with heart conditions, and the elderly.

Persons importing, advertising or selling electronic cigarette products in Canada must stop doing so immediately. Health Canada is providing information to interested stakeholders on how to apply for the appropriate market authorizations and establishment licences.

Canadians who have used e-cigarette products and are concerned about their health should consult with a health care practitioner.








source: http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca




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 Subject :Electronic Cigarettes?.. 14-04-2009 11:10:29 
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Hello all,

First off, hello to everyone....Im the new guy.

Has anyone had any experiences at all wth electronic cigarettes?

I am trying to quit (again). I saw them on the news, and the looked really cool. Looks like it may actually be like a real cigarette without the bad stuff.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance and have a great day....

Joe
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 Subject :cold turkey quit smoking method.. 14-03-2009 12:22:58 
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Q: I’m looking for ways to quit smoking and came across the terminology “Cold Turkey exercise”.  What are Cold turkey and acupuncture methods? Are they really helpful? Is there another method available to quit smoking.


A: Many people have heard of the cold turkey quit smoking method but where does the phrase 'cold turkey' actually come from? Well, it is thought to be a description of the withdrawal effects that heroine addicts must endure when they stop using. One of these withdrawal symptoms is a cold sweat leading to goose pimples on a clammy skin. It's about the same a cold turkey before it goes in the oven at thanksgiving (without the butter of course!).

The origins of the phrase cold turkey also underline the extreme physical pain associated with heroine withdrawal. It is such a powerful drug (hence all the social problems it causes) that it leaves addicts with severe physical side effects when not taken. This extreme is erroneously transferred into the smokers' mind when using the cold turkey quit smoking method. Quitting smoking is nowhere near as painful!

Personally, I define the cold turkey quit smoking method as any method that does not employ the use of drugs or physical aids or 'crutches' to support the smoker. By this I mean the likes of nicotine replacement therapy (patches, gum, lozenges, spray etc.), chantix, zyban or any herbal treatment, fake cigarettes or aversion therapies.

I do consider things like cognitive behavioural therapy and hypnotherapy to fall into the cold turkey quit smoking method because they do not condone the use of drugs to try and assist the smoker. They condone the power of the mind to overcome the problem of nicotine addiction.

In the case of acupuncture and laser therapy, there is little evidence that these methods work and they both require physical interference. Anecdotally of course, there are many ex-smokers that used these methods but studies have shown no improvement in quit rates when compared to cold 'turkeyers'.

Hypnotherapy and cognitive behavioural therapy are both cold turkey quit smoking methods that are known to be effective. Cognitive behavioural therapy is a means of changing your thinking (cognition) and behaviour to a specific event, habit or aspect of life.

Unlike the classic cold turkey "lock-yourself-in-a-room-and-suffer" method of quitting smoking, hypnotherapy and cognitive behavioural therapy work by dealing with smokers' mental perceptions of smoking.

In the case of hypnotherapy as a cold turkey quit smoking method, the smoker may be 'taught' to respond to cravings for cigarettes by thinking about a pleasant time in their life to get over the craving. The smoker may also be 'taught' to dislike smoking. Many people successfully quit smoking using hypnosis but many fail too.

In the case of cognitive behavioural therapy, smokers are presented with a whole new view on smoking. It is a system by which the hugely complicated psychological trap of smoking, is broken down into bite-size pieces. Each piece of the trap is then dismantled, leaving smokers with little choice but to quit of their own free will.

Unlike the classic cold turkey quit smoking method, smokers who quit using cognitive behavioural therapy often report knowing that they have quit and that they will never smoke again. It is not the same with hypnotherapy or acupuncture or laser therapy.

I am of course a proponent of cognitive behavioural therapy. When I stopped smoking using this method, it was an epiphany. It was like my eyes had been opened after years in the darkness. The moment I stopped I knew I would never have another cigarette and it was a hugely liberating experience. However, it is not the same for everyone and there is no 'one-size-fits-all' method for quitting smoking.

Generally, my advice to all smokers is to try any and every method to find the one that works for them. There are many ways to get off cigarettes and the cold turkey quit smoking method is just one of them.

Spending money on money-back guaranteed systems first is the best approach because if that system doesn't work, you can get your cash back and move onto the next. If it does work, it will be money well spent. But my final and most important piece of advice to any would be quitter is to never give up trying to quit, no matter how soul destroying the process seems.




source: EasyQuit System




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 Subject :... We live on that dark planet only once. Part 2.. 16-01-2009 09:03:01 
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... here is some benefits of continue to smoke:

1. Time breaks - some people may not notice this, but for me it is one of the most important thing about smoking. I'm programmer, and if you spend in front of your monitor whole day where is a good chances for you to become crazy. Cigarettes addiction give me a constant break from brain pressure, I can go outside, on the street and enjoy smoking while my brain relaxing. This may sound silly. My non-smoker Chinese co-worker (also a programmer) was just doing push-ups every 2 hours. For my European background - this looks absolutely weird, do push-ups in the middle of the busy office, where people are working, and unfortunately I will never be able to relax like this. It is much more comfortable to just smoke for me. So I need smoke, to survive my job pressure (I'm not talking about drug part of the smoke yet, but just the mandatory breaks it will provide) and thanks to my smoke addiction I'm feeling ok working 10-15 hours a day.

2. Fat Fat Fat. This is common thing for most of the quitters (and non smokers) they becoming fat and ugly, of course you can be on diet all time and do physical training - but again, this take time and I don't like that. I like to eat what I want, when I want and enjoy my life. I agree that smoke maybe not the best fat killer, but it surely helps allot, especially for woman.

3. Taste. You ppl keep forgetting about it. It is just enjoyable. Especially good cigars and pipe tobacco - its beautiful smell and taste - and I love it.

4. Alcohol & tobacco. They meant to be together. Completely different feeling from combination comparing to alcohol itself.
I think this is the strongest reason for me to continue smoking, because I remember myself drinking while quite smoking (long time ago) and it just sucks - Just admit it. It is sucks to drink with out smoke and you can't do anything about it. Of course you can quit drinking and quit smoking. You can also go to monastery and become a monk, but I don't think this is a way for me.
Actually good cup of coffee with a cigarette or cigar - also much better than just coffee and you all know that.

5. Drug: Tobacco is a natural drug that helps brain to be more productive and to be in control of the situation. Same way as coffee or tea helps. Why people think that drinking coffee is OK but smoking is bad? We are created this way by nature, we like all this additional power sources even if it is sometimes bad for overall body health. And what is the health of the body? If you not getting you doze of the drug of some kind - you may get a hard attack, or you can become seriously ill, because your body won't be compatible to accomplish all your tasks, and will be damaged. And you can not decrease number of tasks you want to complete - because this is life and we live fast. So what people do? They go to the drug store and instead of smoke they will buy advil Tylenol and so on an on, and they are eating all this chemical tablets instead of natural drug, and thinking they are healthier? This is crazy. If you not strong enough to live with out smoke, and you want to quit smoking and replace it with massive madness of different tablets- you just a moron, who want to kill himself. (I'm not saying that if you don't need nicotine you should smoke -no, you should not. But if you need it - and you are going to replace it with anti-depressants, head pain killers and other stuff- this is just stupidity)

6. What is the main damage of smoking?
You probably all know that (as I suppose you all educated people) the worst part of being smoking is getting smog (I'm not sure about right translation of this word - it could be: resin; pitch, tar, rosin, 'to gum' - sorry about that, but English is not my native language, let's just call it smog) - so this thing is in tobacco and it goes into your lungs and blocking surface of lungs and this is bad. And I agree with this. Of course I can argue that it also protects lungs and acting like anti-bacterial agent, and smokers are much more resistant and protected than others to allot of forms of flu and etc. anyway - let's forget about it.

So this thing goes into lungs and blocking it, and the smaller are the fractions of the tobacco "smog" - the worse because small fractions go deeper into the lungs and it is harder for lungs to do self-cleaning But if tobacco you smoke has big smog fractions they condensates small fractions on themselves and do not allow small fractions to go deep into lungs - that is why - even it is sounds stupid to you, in most of the cases it is more safe to smoke cigarettes without filter or cigars then smoke light cigarettes, because of the tobacco processing and because filter only stop big fractions of smog and small fractions alone are going to lungs. So filter actually working against you. Knowing all that just helps minimize lungs damage keeps the lungs on some acceptable "clean" level. So if you know what you smoke and how you smoke it you can always protect your lungs and do not damage them in any way (again, don't forget that lungs have self-cleaning mechanism and they are cleaning themselves , so certain level of smog inside is ok) So if you are not a total moron , and not smoking ultra-light cigarettes (pure 'small fractions' smog and no drug) and if you are keeping the balance - everything is going to be ok with your lungs and I don't care do you believe me or not, I just want to share this info with you - it might help you someday.

As to the drug addiction to smoke - maybe it is looks bad, but same goes to everything good in our life - like new cars, expensive food and big houses - this is our life and we should live it how it is without shame.

AND FINNALY:
What is healthy life? The life you all want? If you are going spent your life in the small village, get up every morning and sing a songs with the birds , I'll be the first one to say you should quit smoking (at least tobacco Wink)). But the life we live in big cities is not healthy at all and it can not be.

Most of our day to day activities require constant brain activity and analysis of huge information inputs. This is not what the human was designed for. We don't really need all our muscles any more. We have cars, we have robots. That is why whole our structure as human is misbalanced and all focused on brain activity. And it is not sufficient for the brain to get same supply as it was getting thousands of years ago. And where no answer to this except for getting out of society or changing a job a constriction worker or house cleaner (nothing bad in this professions) but if you are going to keep up with life the way it is , you will be on drug, one or another or you wont be successful.

I just prefer smoking and I'm happy. If you decide to quit , your brain will find different supply anyway. Let's hope it will be less damaging than smoke.

Good luck to you all

P.S. I hope this time - you won't find that many spelling mistakes in my post....

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Subject :Ok people. We live on that dark planet only once, why the heck we should quit?

If you like it - just smoke, the probability that you will finally die primary because of smoking is too low compared to the car accident of if just rock fall of on your head. If you eating in MacDonald like a pig - this will affect your life in much harder way than smoking.

Doctors made study, and they find out that quitting smoking will damage your health more that continuing smoking (I'm not saying that smoking is good, but if you already smoker, this don't really meter) Whole hysteria of "smoking will kill you" benefit allot of people mostly politics, doctors and pharmaceutical industry. They not only manipulating you like a toy, they actually forcing you to become sick by physiologically attacking your brain every day on TV, on cigarettes labels. Do you know how dangerous is to look every day on the pack of cigarettes and see hart in crazy black spots or dying man in coma - this all absolutely illegal and wrong.

Back to MacDonald's - can you imagine how many people will be dead so far, if every time they going to this place - they will see pictures of dead people who was eating bigmaks, and how bad it is for you health.

So think about it. How many pleasure you have in you life? You think running every morning across your street is better than smoking?
F*ck not - much worse! First, your street is not in the forest, is in the middle of suburbs, so while running you lounges starting to get much more air with all the dangerous components and all this that comes from cars engines, chemical factories - will go directly into your body. No doctors will say to you run every morning for you health if you are in the big city - because this is just crazy.

And after all, while running your body start produce some sort of drug (this is medically proven fact) so you are become addicted to your own drug - and after a while, you NEED to run every day - big fucking difference from smoking.

Common people, come down. Or just learn something beyond the TV commercials.

Good luck to you all!
Alex (aka DRY_GIN)
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